In this episode, I sit with Judy Liu, who is a true rebel in every sense of that word in the corporate world. She’s navigated multiple career pivots, defying conventional paths to carve out a niche that defies most people’s expectations of what a career should look like. From learning structural drawings as an aspiring architect, to drafting legal strategies as a student of law degree, to studying psychology as the Head of Learning and Development at Hays. She also candidly shares about how her diverse background has shaped her own views on leadership behaviours and expectations. 

There’s a famous quote by Albert Einstein that goes, "it’s a miracle that curiosity survives the formal education.” Yet when we think about education, there’s a sense that we focus a lot more on the teaching, the academic curriculum, the results... rather than the experiences of  learning from the child’s perspective. In this episode, Eileen Tan shares from her years of experience working with children on her views of how we can get better at building the education for our young, how we can nurture (not diminish) their innate curiosity… and how we can set them up better for life’s hard knocks and challenges.  

We often think about our career journey from our mid-20s to 50s, and it’s commonly one that is linear from university to corporate, then retirement. But what happens to the age groups that fall outside of this range? Kai Ning, Lim - a HR business partner at Unilever - has embarked on a mission outside her corporate role, to not only support these groups of talents in their second chapter, but to also help us rethink the way we hire for our organisations…. as well as how we will define retirement.

AI has gotten quite the reputation of being inauthentic, fake and being the ultimate risk in replacing our jobs, since the launch of ChatGPT. So I speak with Ashvin Praveen, who is the co-founder and CEO of an AI startup called Cleve, on his views about building a tool in this space. Now, what you’ll want to know about Ashvin is that he is a graduate from mechanical engineering with first class honours degree turned social media marketer. Not quite the usual path… nor your regular AI tech thinker.

In this new season, I wanted to talk to individuals who have embarked on journeys that are away from scripted paths. I speak with Neeraj Narayan, whose writing on linkedin captured my attention and then seeing his paintings and photography completely mesmerised me. This is a corporate guy who not only had the corporate life for over 20 years, but worked in one of the most well known brands in sportswear - with the Nike organisation. But Neeraj is someone who knows, deep down, that the pursuit in the joy of creating art requires that he make a different decision in his life.

Kai Yuan Ng shares his journey into transforming - from what started as a school project - into a successful thriving media group across Southeast Asia, garnering accolades for their featured stories of Singapore... and being featured on the Forbes 30 under 30 list.

Finding your “why” could be a tricky journey - most stop at an idea or the fear of trying. Wong Ling Yah, host of So This Is My Why podcast, shares why you should follow your curiosities and how the tiny steps in the right direction can create a whole new mindset shift.

“You have to fail to know how to do it.... yet a lot of people lack the curiosity to deviate from the herd.” Jan Yeo is a Singapore-based entrepreneur who certainly does not play by the rulebook when it comes to choosing a career path.